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Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:40 pm
by gandahar
"Are you ready ?" from a song of Eddie Bo "Hook And Sling"
sampled by Tuff Crew in the track "Nut" from album "Back to wreck Shop"
the breakbeat used in "Nut" is from that song "hook and sling" too

:mrgreen:

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:00 pm
by 5 Grand
No, Eric b and Rakim sampled Bobby Byrd "I Know You Got Soul" not Donald Byrd.

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:01 pm
by gandahar
hey your right man!
I always make mistake with this two artists

the Bobby Bird "Hot Pants" breakbeat is famous too

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:21 am
by benblack
OK - not sure if this should go here but I know people have been going apesh*t trying to find a sample from Main Source's "Looking at the Front door" - the bit at the start that goes "Come on Baby nah nah" just before the Pazant Brothers sample drops - it's from Ken Lazarus "So Good Together" - a cover of the Andy Kim song.

It's also where Large Pro got the break for the Large Professor track off Breakin' Atoms....

Now go hunting...

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:18 pm
by leftright
easy one yet i'm racking my brain at the moment and coming up with nothing... what's getting cut up in this?

Fat Boys - Stick Em (starts out at around the :49 sec mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wipr12ZmBfw



i almost don't even want to know the direct answer. a simple clue will jar something upstairs in my head. i'm an old DJ and should know this. brain is just a little dusty today

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:12 pm
by leftright
just gonna tell myself it's Pleasure "Celebrate The Good Things" so i don't lose anymore sleep over this

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:21 pm
by ramses
IRISH CRAIG wrote:Ramses

I apologise in advance, but I must admit im like a dog with toffee with these things

Gettin back to sample sources for ITCHIBAN SCRATCH, did you ever suss out what the GRAND OLE DUKE OF YORK was from, its beginning to wind me up now, cos between us all, weve managed to find virtually every bit...



CL


AAAAAaaaaaaaahhh!!!!!! Got it!

This is from the recent Trunk re-release Music For Children, a 1957 kids' album. This is the only track I've listened to so far, if I find any more gold I'll stick those on YouTube too (I suspect I might find "watch your step" and "look before you leap" on here too).

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlJSxpzHOBw

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:14 am
by Repo136
First of all, thanks to Ramses for reminding me about this thread (I've sort of been a bit slack around OSHH lately, soz!) and for sending me the mp3's as mentioned above.

Well, this is bizarre.
I just received that same Trunk cd only yesterday and was going to listen to it soon (it was the "Wicker Man-esque" description of some of the songs that really caught my eye).

I think I am going to have to listen to it even sooner than anticipated now :D

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:52 pm
by ramses
Yeah it's actually a pretty good listen.

I can certainly understand the Wicker Man comparison, there are some very strange and oddly spooky tracks on there - reminded me in parts of Ennio Morricone's Who Saw Her Die soundtrack. I haven't actually listened to it all yet, maybe there's some more gold in them thar hills.

Watch your step....

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:05 pm
by dankdaddy
leftright wrote:easy one yet i'm racking my brain at the moment and coming up with nothing... what's getting cut up in this?

Fat Boys - Stick Em (starts out at around the :49 sec mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wipr12ZmBfw



i almost don't even want to know the direct answer. a simple clue will jar something upstairs in my head. i'm an old DJ and should know this. brain is just a little dusty today




Here's some food for thought...

The horn hit is probably from the same record as the "One two three hit me" record that you can also hear being cut up in the song (the part after they say "his beats come from, machine or man, he's also cuttin up cause he's in command so cut it up!" around the 1:14 mark then he cuts up the "one two three hit me" record) the voice sounds like someone trying to imitate James Brown. This Fat Boys record came out around 84-ish so going by memory here, Bambaatta had a few records out that he was imitating the James Brown voice.. He was doing stuff with Shango the year before on Celluloid records. I didn't hear the entire Shango catelouge so maybe that could possibly be a clue? The horn hit just might be from the same record.

Just a guess.. i may have to look it up as well. I do know that Mantronix also used the same horn hit on his record "Bassline" but it's debatable weather or not he used it off the Fat Boys record or right from the original source... also to keep in mind, Mantronix also sampled Shango a few times for other songs.

Who knows? It's a clue if anything.

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:18 pm
by ramses
leftright wrote:easy one yet i'm racking my brain at the moment and coming up with nothing... what's getting cut up in this?

Fat Boys - Stick Em (starts out at around the :49 sec mark)



Pretty sure it's this:



Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:55 pm
by leftright
yeah i pretty much answered my own question after my first post but thanks for the help guys. felt embarrassed for even asking.

got one more questionable one that i definitely don't know but was wondering if anyone had any insight on. in Kurtis Blow's 'AJ Scratch' does anybody know what that sound is at the 1:06 mark?



to me it sounds like the "uhhh" from the Fat Boys "Human Beat Box" at the 0:01 mark

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:37 pm
by dankdaddy
I hear a bassnote behind it so i don't know... sounds like its another record altogether.


..and i'm still not convinced about that "Celebrate the good things" record being the source.

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:41 pm
by leftright
dankdaddy wrote:

Here's some food for thought...

The horn hit is probably from the same record as the "One two three hit me" record that you can also hear being cut up in the song (the part after they say "his beats come from, machine or man, he's also cuttin up cause he's in command so cut it up!" around the 1:14 mark then he cuts up the "one two three hit me" record) the voice sounds like someone trying to imitate James Brown. This Fat Boys record came out around 84-ish so going by memory here, Bambaatta had a few records out that he was imitating the James Brown voice.. He was doing stuff with Shango the year before on Celluloid records. I didn't hear the entire Shango catelouge so maybe that could possibly be a clue? The horn hit just might be from the same record.

Just a guess.. i may have to look it up as well. I do know that Mantronix also used the same horn hit on his record "Bassline" but it's debatable weather or not he used it off the Fat Boys record or right from the original source... also to keep in mind, Mantronix also sampled Shango a few times for other songs.

Who knows? It's a clue if anything.


i had to come back to this because you may be onto something. i'm also impressed with what a good ear you have for even hearing the "one, two, three, hit me" part because i never even caught that until you brought it to my attention. it does sound like multiple things being cut up behind that horn break so it gets confusing to pick apart. maybe he is using the Pleasure record with another noise behind it. when you cut up that Pleasure horn it doesn't sound like the noise i'm hearing at the 1:15 mark. it's like a harsh crisp cut at the beginning of some sound. it's almost like the "ahhh" in the Fab 5 Freddy record.

gonna go back to what you suggested and go through some Shango and Bam associated records and see what's out there.

also thanks for spending some time on this to help me out. much appreciated.

Re: List the Cuts not the Breaks

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:25 pm
by leftright
thanks for the reply ezk but that song wasn't released when Stick Em came out. it is however from the same break i initially thought was being used from that Pleasure record, which i think may or may not be wrong upon further investigating. i believe that what he's cutting up are the horns from the Brothers Johnson "Ain't We Funkin Now" in one section and possibly Pleasure in another section of the song. i think i got confused thinking he was cutting up the same record on the whole thing :?



for one section i did a side by side comparison with the Brothers Johnson break here:

http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/72465669/file.html

he may pitch it up or down in different parts of Stick Em too...

or i think i could be over-complicating this

and for reference, here's the Pleasure break side by side comparison in a different part of the song: